Comments on: Horror in Caquetá http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258 Peace, security, human rights and the U.S. role in Latin America, from the Center for International Policy. Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:36:29 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Javier http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8156 Javier Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:41:56 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8156 Well, sorry to ruin your american party here, acts like this are the aftermath of Colombian - us agreement on military bases, The ''security'' laws dictated by Alvaro Uribe and his pals from AUC, and of course let's not forget our governor basically stealing a percentage of his employees' (cabinet) salary, i dont agree on killing people nor justify FARC'S behavior, im just throwing some statements you guys dont come out of this one clean. Now thanks for the military bases, i feel much UNSAFER to know that now we are gonna be harrassed by fucking jarheads, more blood spilled of course from farmers that has nothing to do with the conflict. Really thanks a lot, great help!!!! NOT EVERYTHING IS LIKE IT APPEARS IN CNN, come on people give us a break. Well, sorry to ruin your american party here, acts like this are the aftermath of Colombian – us agreement on military bases, The ‘’security” laws dictated by Alvaro Uribe and his pals from AUC, and of course let’s not forget our governor basically stealing a percentage of his employees’ (cabinet) salary, i dont agree on killing people nor justify FARC’S behavior, im just throwing some statements you guys dont come out of this one clean. Now thanks for the military bases, i feel much UNSAFER to know that now we are gonna be harrassed by fucking jarheads, more blood spilled of course from farmers that has nothing to do with the conflict. Really thanks a lot, great help!!!!
NOT EVERYTHING IS LIKE IT APPEARS IN CNN, come on people give us a break.

]]> By: Jaime Bustso http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8138 Jaime Bustso Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:05:53 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8138 Harvy, it's true, here http://anncol.eu/noticias-del-mundo/4/al-gobernador-del-caqueta-le-iban-a-hacer-juicio-pol%C3%ADtico-por-corrupto341 Harvy, it’s true, here

http://anncol.eu/noticias-del-mundo/4/al-gobernador-del-caqueta-le-iban-a-hacer-juicio-pol%C3%ADtico-por-corrupto341

]]> By: Haryy http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8130 Haryy Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:18:55 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8130 Fandango, a link to El Tiempo doesn't tell us anything (except perhaps that you think it is a serious news outlet!) other than that the newspaper is taking Uribe's line as usual. You'll need to do better than that. Have you seen the statement on ANNCOL as I've looked and couldn't see anything. If you find it please supply a link. Fandango, a link to El Tiempo doesn’t tell us anything (except perhaps that you think it is a serious news outlet!) other than that the newspaper is taking Uribe’s line as usual. You’ll need to do better than that. Have you seen the statement on ANNCOL as I’ve looked and couldn’t see anything. If you find it please supply a link.

]]> By: Fandango http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8094 Fandango Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:46:52 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8094 Well, the FARC took responsibility ... or do you all you FARC apologists think Uribe et al secretly control ANNCOL as well? http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/justicia/farc-reconocen-asesinato-de-gobernador-de-caqueta_6893167-1 A través de Anncol, medio que usualmente reproduce las posiciones de las Farc, el bloque Sur de esa guerrilla aseguró que el objetivo del secuestro era realizar un juicio político contra Cuéllar por supuesta corrupción. El mandatario regional fue degollado por sus plagiarios apenas una hora después del secuestro. Well, the FARC took responsibility … or do you all you FARC apologists think Uribe et al secretly control ANNCOL as well?

http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/justicia/farc-reconocen-asesinato-de-gobernador-de-caqueta_6893167-1

A través de Anncol, medio que usualmente reproduce las posiciones de las Farc, el bloque Sur de esa guerrilla aseguró que el objetivo del secuestro era realizar un juicio político contra Cuéllar por supuesta corrupción. El mandatario regional fue degollado por sus plagiarios apenas una hora después del secuestro.

]]> By: Jaime Bustos http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8070 Jaime Bustos Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:33:01 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8070 Kelly maybe we'll never know. The dynamics of the colombian conflict are jaw dropping to say the least, and a dirty war has been going on for years, so nothing is what it seems though I agree with what you posted. Kelly maybe we’ll never know. The dynamics of the colombian conflict are jaw dropping to say the least, and a dirty war has been going on for years, so nothing is what it seems though I agree with what you posted.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8049 Kelly Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:15:36 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8049 Hang on everyone. I understand that this guy was being investigated for links to paramilitaries by the Fiscalia 11 in Bogota. If there were such links no wonder the FARC killed him - if indeed it was them. Perhaps the paras did it to prevent him from spilling the beans. Hang on everyone. I understand that this guy was being investigated for links to paramilitaries by the Fiscalia 11 in Bogota. If there were such links no wonder the FARC killed him – if indeed it was them. Perhaps the paras did it to prevent him from spilling the beans.

]]> By: Jaime Bustos http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8005 Jaime Bustos Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:11:39 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8005 It's "insulting" not to receive any feedback from Adam :mrgreen: It’s “insulting” not to receive any feedback from Adam :mrgreen:

]]> By: Jaime Bustos http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8003 Jaime Bustos Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:03:00 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8003 Once again Uribe is the most notorious John Doe amongst Semana's Readers http://www.semana.com/Respuesta-votacion-multisondeos/personajes-antipersonajes-del-2009/22.aspx Once again Uribe is the most notorious John Doe amongst Semana’s Readers

http://www.semana.com/Respuesta-votacion-multisondeos/personajes-antipersonajes-del-2009/22.aspx

]]> By: Jaime Bustos http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8002 Jaime Bustos Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:24:16 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8002 The lady doth protest too much, methinks http://www.elespectador.com/articulo179078-de-insultante-califico-silva-se-diga-farc-no-asesinaron-al-gobernador The lady doth protest too much, methinks

http://www.elespectador.com/articulo179078-de-insultante-califico-silva-se-diga-farc-no-asesinaron-al-gobernador

]]> By: Hasan http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-8000 Hasan Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:18:05 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-8000 I repeat that there is no evidence to confirm that it was carried out by the FARC. The armed men arrived dressed in military fatigue from the anti-kidnapping unit in one of the most militarised towns in Colombia: not easy. And these difficulties should not be ignored. They must be discussed. Undermining this very informative blog with unproven facts that only act to strengthen the Uribe government is very dangerous. As you say in the article, for the FARC to have carried out this act has many negative consequences for them. Would they not realise this themselves? By repeating Colombian government propaganda (and until there are definite facts that is exactly what it is) one is only acting as a tool for Uribe. As you correctly complain, in an earlier post, about the article by Mary O Grady, it is important to maintain the same control in not repeating propaganda from interested parties. I repeat that there is no evidence to confirm that it was carried out by the FARC. The armed men arrived dressed in military fatigue from the anti-kidnapping unit in one of the most militarised towns in Colombia: not easy. And these difficulties should not be ignored. They must be discussed.

Undermining this very informative blog with unproven facts that only act to strengthen the Uribe government is very dangerous. As you say in the article, for the FARC to have carried out this act has many negative consequences for them. Would they not realise this themselves? By repeating Colombian government propaganda (and until there are definite facts that is exactly what it is) one is only acting as a tool for Uribe.

As you correctly complain, in an earlier post, about the article by Mary O Grady, it is important to maintain the same control in not repeating propaganda from interested parties.

]]> By: Jaime Bustos http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-7999 Jaime Bustos Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:32:52 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-7999 Pasadas las tres de la tarde del martes, un habitante de la zona reportó que había visto un cadáver en la vereda Sebastópol, pero la posición del cuerpo (no se le veía el rostro) y el hecho de que no se oyeron disparos en la zona desconcertaron a los responsables de la búsqueda. Para ese momento, el grueso de la persecución iba por otra ruta, la que marcaban los uniformes abandonados por los guerrilleros. Estos, de acuerdo con los primeros análisis, <b> eran orginales de la IX Brigada </b>, y ahora se investigará si de esa unidad se perdió algún material de intendencia. http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/justicia/asisnato-del-gobernador-de-caqueta_6833727-2 Pasadas las tres de la tarde del martes, un habitante de la zona reportó que había visto un cadáver en la vereda Sebastópol, pero la posición del cuerpo (no se le veía el rostro) y el hecho de que no se oyeron disparos en la zona desconcertaron a los responsables de la búsqueda. Para ese momento, el grueso de la persecución iba por otra ruta, la que marcaban los uniformes abandonados por los guerrilleros.

Estos, de acuerdo con los primeros análisis, eran orginales de la IX Brigada , y ahora se investigará si de esa unidad se perdió algún material de intendencia.

http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/justicia/asisnato-del-gobernador-de-caqueta_6833727-2

]]> By: Camilo Wilson http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-7989 Camilo Wilson Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:23:18 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-7989 Another repulsive act, like so many others in Colombia over the past half-century. Yet no less repulsive—in a land increasingly defined by its brutality—are the murder of civilians by Colombia's U.S.-supported military, which then tags them as felled rebel combatants. Or the murder of legions of civilians (including Patriotic Union members) over the years by paramilitaries sympathetic to Uribe and who ply their grisly trade on behalf of members of the country's political elite who wish to appear clean. The hatreds run deep, the memories long; and the savagery mounts... There are few angels among the armed combatants in Colombia, regular or irregular—and among the unarmed elements and murky interests who support those combatants from the shadows. The official position of the Uribe Government is that there is no armed conflict in Colombia, only “terrorism.” How long will Colombians (and non-Colombians) abide this absurd fiction? How long before Colombians question Uribe’s hard-line “democratic security” policies and strategies, and cease to believe that only he and those policies can bring security to Colombia? How long before those who defend human rights, or advocate for dialogue that could lead to a lasting peace, cease to be portrayed in official Colombian circles as insurgents, or “soft” on terrorism? How long before saner minds prevail and push earnestly and openly for some sort of real dialogue with the insurgents? How long, how long, how long…? Another repulsive act, like so many others in Colombia over the past half-century. Yet no less repulsive—in a land increasingly defined by its brutality—are the murder of civilians by Colombia’s U.S.-supported military, which then tags them as felled rebel combatants. Or the murder of legions of civilians (including Patriotic Union members) over the years by paramilitaries sympathetic to Uribe and who ply their grisly trade on behalf of members of the country’s political elite who wish to appear clean. The hatreds run deep, the memories long; and the savagery mounts…

There are few angels among the armed combatants in Colombia, regular or irregular—and among the unarmed elements and murky interests who support those combatants from the shadows.
The official position of the Uribe Government is that there is no armed conflict in Colombia, only “terrorism.” How long will Colombians (and non-Colombians) abide this absurd fiction? How long before Colombians question Uribe’s hard-line “democratic security” policies and strategies, and cease to believe that only he and those policies can bring security to Colombia? How long before those who defend human rights, or advocate for dialogue that could lead to a lasting peace, cease to be portrayed in official Colombian circles as insurgents, or “soft” on terrorism? How long before saner minds prevail and push earnestly and openly for some sort of real dialogue with the insurgents?

How long, how long, how long…?

]]> By: Jaime Bustos http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-7987 Jaime Bustos Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:24:41 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-7987 You also know that Cuchilo and Varela's gangs are in dispute of the terrritory and paramilitaries are all over the place (let alone guerrillas) . People should not let themselves be carried away by speeches of narco hysterical schizoid banana country prima donas. You also know that Cuchilo and Varela’s gangs are in dispute of the terrritory and paramilitaries are all over the place (let alone guerrillas) . People should not let themselves be carried away by speeches of narco hysterical schizoid banana country prima donas.

]]> By: Jaime Bustos http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-7986 Jaime Bustos Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:21:06 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-7986 Well the "evidence: does not point in any direction Adam, I think the Farc possibly did it. But there's not such evidence as you point in your article. Well the “evidence: does not point in any direction Adam, I think the Farc possibly did it. But there’s not such evidence as you point in your article.

]]> By: Chris http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258&cpage=1#comment-7978 Chris Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:48:53 +0000 http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1258#comment-7978 Heard that Colombian military was closing in and the FARC slit his throat so as not to give away their position. So... perhaps it wasn't their intention to kill him, but they had to for their own reasons. But none of this is confirmed... just hearsay. He was brazen... only walked around with 2 - 4 soldiers/police as body guards. He was an easy target. RIP. Heard that Colombian military was closing in and the FARC slit his throat so as not to give away their position. So… perhaps it wasn’t their intention to kill him, but they had to for their own reasons.

But none of this is confirmed… just hearsay.

He was brazen… only walked around with 2 – 4 soldiers/police as body guards. He was an easy target.

RIP.

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