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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s not about ChÃ¡vez</title>
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	<description>Peace, security, human rights and the U.S. role in Latin America, from the Center for International Policy.</description>
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		<title>By: Our Export Proposal for President Obama: Send Food and Tourists to Cuba! &#171; Cuba Central &#8211; The Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1288&#038;cpage=1#comment-8576</link>
		<dc:creator>Our Export Proposal for President Obama: Send Food and Tourists to Cuba! &#171; Cuba Central &#8211; The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s Not About Chavez, Plan Colombia and Beyond [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s Not About Chavez, Plan Colombia and Beyond [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El doble estÃ¡ndar de El Comercio y la democracia colombiana &#171; Lugares Comunes</title>
		<link>http://www.cipcol.org/?p=1288&#038;cpage=1#comment-8301</link>
		<dc:creator>El doble estÃ¡ndar de El Comercio y la democracia colombiana &#171; Lugares Comunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SegÃºn este diario, Colombia es un paraÃ­so democrÃ¡tico, al que todos deberÃ­amos aspirar. Un paraÃ­so que solo se ve amenazado por el intento de reelecciÃ³n de su respetable lÃ­der, el pacifista Ãlvaro Uribe. Esta sombra de reelecciÃ³n serÃ­a solo el primer paso que podrÃ­a llevar al paÃ­s a convertirse en una dictadura (sic) como la de ChÃ¡vez en Venezuela (siempre hay que mencionarlo). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SegÃºn este diario, Colombia es un paraÃ­so democrÃ¡tico, al que todos deberÃ­amos aspirar. Un paraÃ­so que solo se ve amenazado por el intento de reelecciÃ³n de su respetable lÃ­der, el pacifista Ãlvaro Uribe. Esta sombra de reelecciÃ³n serÃ­a solo el primer paso que podrÃ­a llevar al paÃ­s a convertirse en una dictadura (sic) como la de ChÃ¡vez en Venezuela (siempre hay que mencionarlo). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Continuing Difficulties in Venezuela</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; Continuing Difficulties in Venezuela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Setting aside my mid-day snark-in-lieu-of-actual-analysis, I would recommend Adam Isacsonâ€™s recent post of the regional significance of the President of Venezuela:&#160; Itâ€™s not about ChÃ¡vez. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Setting aside my mid-day snark-in-lieu-of-actual-analysis, I would recommend Adam Isacsonâ€™s recent post of the regional significance of the President of Venezuela:&#160; Itâ€™s not about ChÃ¡vez. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lfm</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Adam: the &quot;Diehl spiel&quot; of turning everything in Latin America and, heck, while we are at it, in Egypt and Syria as well, into some story about Chavez has been ridiculous from the start, but worse than that, it&#039;s no longer amusing. But at a deeper level, there are two thoughts that I have in mind:

1. Why do we still pay any attention whatsoever to the Washington Post? Future generations will wonder how many trees were felled so that this rag could inflict upon us the ramblings of Diehl, Krauthammer, Robert Samuelson and so on.

2. One of the professional hats I wear requires me to teach Argentinean history. So, for years I&#039;ve been wondering about the parallels between Chavez and Peron. I could go on and on about the mistakes Peron made, I could also go on and on about the mistakes Chavez has made, but that is besides the point. What matters is that in Argentina, Peron awoke the masses politically and gave them the experience of a government that, with lots of flaws, granted, was willing to take on some interests to deliver significant improvements in living standards for them. Then, when he fell, his successors made the fateful mistake of trying to erase that page of history, trying to suppress the popular awakening that Peron meant. The result? A 20 year-long governance crisis that, after lots of coups, dictatorships and economic disasters led to... the return of Peron.

I keep fearing that the Venezuelan elites of the IV Republic, if and when they come back, will make the same mistake. I doubt they will try to come to terms with the new political landscape of popular mobilization that Chavez would leave behind and will, instead, try to suppress it, violently if needed. 

Does that mean that I&#039;m a Chavista? No. But I&#039;m an anti-anti-chavista. I disagree with many things the Venezuelan government has done (while, yes, I APPROVE of others). The thing is not to demonize what is, after all, yet another flawed president (all of them are). The thing is to recognize that the political process in Venezuela is much more nuanced than what the opposition would have us believe and that, failing to recognize that is just setting the stage for a set of mistakes of historical proportions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Adam: the &#8220;Diehl spiel&#8221; of turning everything in Latin America and, heck, while we are at it, in Egypt and Syria as well, into some story about Chavez has been ridiculous from the start, but worse than that, it&#8217;s no longer amusing. But at a deeper level, there are two thoughts that I have in mind:</p>
<p>1. Why do we still pay any attention whatsoever to the Washington Post? Future generations will wonder how many trees were felled so that this rag could inflict upon us the ramblings of Diehl, Krauthammer, Robert Samuelson and so on.</p>
<p>2. One of the professional hats I wear requires me to teach Argentinean history. So, for years I&#8217;ve been wondering about the parallels between Chavez and Peron. I could go on and on about the mistakes Peron made, I could also go on and on about the mistakes Chavez has made, but that is besides the point. What matters is that in Argentina, Peron awoke the masses politically and gave them the experience of a government that, with lots of flaws, granted, was willing to take on some interests to deliver significant improvements in living standards for them. Then, when he fell, his successors made the fateful mistake of trying to erase that page of history, trying to suppress the popular awakening that Peron meant. The result? A 20 year-long governance crisis that, after lots of coups, dictatorships and economic disasters led to&#8230; the return of Peron.</p>
<p>I keep fearing that the Venezuelan elites of the IV Republic, if and when they come back, will make the same mistake. I doubt they will try to come to terms with the new political landscape of popular mobilization that Chavez would leave behind and will, instead, try to suppress it, violently if needed. </p>
<p>Does that mean that I&#8217;m a Chavista? No. But I&#8217;m an anti-anti-chavista. I disagree with many things the Venezuelan government has done (while, yes, I APPROVE of others). The thing is not to demonize what is, after all, yet another flawed president (all of them are). The thing is to recognize that the political process in Venezuela is much more nuanced than what the opposition would have us believe and that, failing to recognize that is just setting the stage for a set of mistakes of historical proportions.</p>
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